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Hello Sunshine\u2019s top creative duo \u2014 and THR\u2019s TV Producers of the Year \u2014 on that $900 million sale, a rom-com renaissance and the potential return of ‘Big Little Lies’: “I talk to Nicole Kidman about it all the time.”<\/p>\n
Reading isn\u2019t only fundamental. Sometimes, it\u2019s incredibly lucrative. Reese Witherspoon proved that in 2021 when she sold Hello Sunshine, the media company she built on the back of her own voracious reading and savvy book rights acquisitions, to Blackstone-backed Candle Media for a reported $900 million. Not too shabby for a production outfit that many might have been quick to write off as another actor\u2019s vanity shingle. But Witherspoon\u2019s tastes \u2014 and those of Lauren Neustadter, Hello Sunshine\u2019s president of film and TV \u2014 have populated one of the most thriving content suppliers in Hollywood. Blending marquee ensemble vehicles for its founder (Big Little Lies, Little Fires Everywhere and The Morning Show) with an aggressive slate of dramas starring the likes of Octavia Spencer (Truth Be Told), Gugu Mbatha-Raw (Surface), and Zoe Salda\u00f1a (From Scratch, out Oct. 21 on Netflix), Hello Sunshine\u2019s focus on female stories (from female storytellers) has made it a standout.<\/p>\n
Further distinguishing the brand is its ever-diversifying portfolio. In February, the company acquired media and merchandising startup The Home Edit. And in July, it saw its first theatrical release since Hello Sunshine\u2019s 2016 founding, Where the Crawdads Sing. The picture, an adaptation of an early Reese\u2019s Book Club selection, grossed $130 million on a $24 million budget. Speaking in mid-September over Zoom, Witherspoon and Neustadter, THR\u2018s TV Producers of the Year, discussed new areas that they\u2019ve identified for expansion, the biggest obstacle in populating sets with women and why Hollywood should be preparing for the impending rom-com renaissance.<\/p>\n
You just hit the one-year anniversary of the sale. How would you describe this era of the company?<\/p>\n
REESE WITHERSPOON It\u2019s a big year for romance for us. We have a movie in December with Zoey Deutch called Something From Tiffany\u2019s, a real return of the rom-com. And Ashton Kutcher and I have a movie coming out at Valentine\u2019s Day, Your Place or Mine.<\/p>\n
LAUREN NEUSTADTER From Scratch is a romance though definitely not a comedy. It\u2019s been great to have the support of Candle and Blackstone \u2014 just to be encouraged to keep thinking bigger and bigger. We\u2019re so proud of how we innovated in the first five years of the company. Now, it just feels like we have more opportunities. We had all these planes on the runway, and now they\u2019re about to start taking off.<\/p>\n
With any sale, especially one with your valuation, I\u2019d expect there\u2019s also the pressure to deliver profits.<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON We were all very vision-aligned from the very beginning about what we wanted to create as a brand \u2014 creating a narrative for women, where they could tell their story in their own words. So, whether that\u2019s through a book, a podcast, a social media post, it\u2019s really about self-expression and showing the entire spectrum of the female experience. That\u2019s not only in the scripted world but in unscripted. We\u2019re really breaking new ground with [Amazon\u2019s] Making the Cut and the direct-to-consumer component of [SKR Productions, which produces Making the Cut and was acquired by Hello Sunshine in 2020]. You can buy the outfits in real time. We\u2019re working on a lot of concepts like that through acquisitions like The Home Edit. They have an incredibly successful show [on Netflix] but also this amazing commerce business. So, looking at it holistically, how can we bring a lot of value through storytelling on every platform where women are? If we look like we\u2019re busy, I think we\u2019re just making up for lost time \u2014 years and years of lost storytelling.<\/p>\n
Speaking of lost time, Reese, you\u2019ve said that you felt you weren\u2019t always taken seriously in Hollywood. And there\u2019s that story about a studio executive telling you they already had their one movie starring a woman for the year. When you walk into a room now, are the men scared?<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON No. (Laughs.) And, by the way, that was a woman who said that to me. I think we just operated under a different standard. With the emergence of streaming, you had this empirical data that there was an audience sitting and waiting to be delivered to. There was no more guessing game of, \u201cWomen don\u2019t like those kinds of movies,\u201d or, \u201cThat kind of movie doesn\u2019t travel overseas.\u201d It was always based on metrics that felt very loosey-goosey. Now there are so many services to provide the critical data that we can then provide to our partners to show them that there\u2019s real audiences for these kinds of romantic movies. There\u2019s been a dearth of romantic material for so long, but it doesn\u2019t mean there\u2019s not a desire for people to see it. We identified that three years ago. We thought the world really needed some more joy and happiness and love. Most of what we learn about romance and interpersonal relationships, we learn from movies and TV shows. It\u2019s just true.<\/p>\n
Reese Witherspoon and Lauren Neustadter PHOTOGRAPHED BY MACKENZIE STROH
\nPeople in Hollywood have been saying for years that romantic comedies in particular don\u2019t get people to the box office. How do you shift that narrative?<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON When anybody says that stuff, I say, \u201cCall Ted Sarandos or Scott Stuber or Bob Chapek \u2026 anyone who runs these studios with a streaming service.\u201d Show me the numbers! I imagine people have watched more Nancy Meyers movies over and over and over again than have seen an auteur\u2019s movie. You see an auteur movie once. I think you\u2019re going to see a new measurement of engagement, which is, \u201cHow many times are people watching it?\u201d What\u2019s the repeated viewership? I\u2019ve seen some of my favorite romantic comedies and Nora Ephron movies over and over. Repeatability is a big factor in terms of library value.<\/p>\n
NEUSTADTER There was a really interesting moment that started with that Zoey Deutch movie on Netflix, Set It Up. Reese watched it, loved it and tweeted something like, \u201cWhere are all the rom-coms?\u201d The response on Twitter was so intense. Now we have Zoey doing Something From Tiffany\u2019s. Rom-coms are feel-good movies, and this is a moment in the world when people are turning to these streaming platforms to find content that makes them feel good.<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON I just came home from work. The first thing I wanted to watch was [the Hulu comedy] Reboot because I was like, \u201cI only have 30 minutes, but I just want to laugh and enjoy myself.\u201d I think we\u2019re in a new era as well \u2014 there\u2019s something to be said for making people feel good.<\/p>\n
Reese Witherspoon and Lauren Neustadter PHOTOGRAPHED BY MACKENZIE STROH
\nOn the heels of The Home Edit news, what are the kinds of things you\u2019re considering when identifying future acquisition targets?<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON [Founders Clea Shearer and Joanna Teplin] have a really dynamic onscreen appeal. It\u2019s people like that, people who really connect with audiences, people who potentially started on Instagram or TikTok. We\u2019re always looking at social media people, but it\u2019s about finding those who have components that can be built into unscripted shows and potentially commerce opportunities. It\u2019s just a different world. It\u2019s thrilling that these creators out of Nashville, Tennessee, went all the way to having a Netflix show, a huge deal at Walmart, a huge deal at The Container Store, and now a podcast. There\u2019s so many creators on TikTok that I\u2019m like, \u201cI want to work with that person!\u201d<\/p>\n
NEUSTADTER If you want to know what new show to watch or who\u2019s funny on TikTok, there\u2019s no one better than Reese Witherspoon \u2014 the ultimate consumer and lover of content. So many nights, I\u2019m just falling asleep, reading a script or watching a cut, and I\u2019ll ask Reese, \u201cWhat do I really want to watch?\u201d<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON I\u2019ll also tell you, \u201cDon\u2019t watch that. It\u2019s boring.\u201d<\/p>\n
Where do you think you have the most potential for growth?<\/p>\n
NEUSTADTER Our little boys are the same age, so we have an ongoing exchange about family content. That\u2019s a direction we\u2019re excited to head into. There\u2019s not enough content that features young girls as the heroes of their own stories.<\/p>\n
All those videos of little girls watching Halle Bailey in The Little Mermaid trailer certainly suggest you\u2019re right.<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON It\u2019s really emotional and moving. We certainly hope to be broadening our film and television capacity to tell more family-oriented stories and more YA stories. Bring the message to even younger audiences and collaborate with younger people, because it\u2019s so fun. There\u2019s also a co-production piece of this too, with Zoey Deutch or Zoe Salda\u00f1a. It\u2019s really validating. These women have had a lot of experience in their own right, and they have so much to bring producorially to the story and to how they run the sets. They show up, and they are leaders.<\/p>\n
What were the lessons from Where the Crawdads Sing, considering it was the first feature to go through the traditional Hello Sunshine pipeline of book club to acquiring the rights to theatrical release?<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON I was listening to an industry podcast the other day, and they were going over box office hits of the summer. They went through Top Gun, Doctor Strange, all these big tentpole movies. Then they were like, \u201cAnd here\u2019s this other movie that we didn\u2019t talk about or even know. It came out of nowhere.\u201d Underdog stories are my favorite. This movie wasn\u2019t on a lot of people\u2019s radar \u2014 and it\u2019s counterprogramming, I know \u2014 but it\u2019s a return to real filmmaking. It\u2019s a heart-and-soul human experience on film with beautiful sets and beautiful costumes and wonderful actors. It\u2019s almost nostalgic for what you wanted to see in the summer.<\/p>\n
The September 2018 Reese\u2019s Book Club selection, Delia Owens\u2019 Where the Crawdads Sing, went on to sell 4.5 million copies before Hello Sunshine adapted the Daisy Edgar-Jones starrer. COURTESY OF SONY PICTURES ENTERTAINMENT INC.
\nWhat was your most recent reminder of why you like your work?<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON We get to tell stories for a living, at the highest level, with some of the greatest filmmakers and storytellers. I came from Nashville. Lauren came from New Orleans. We just wanted to tell stories and be filmmakers. And here we are, running this company in a way that is also, for me, change-making. I wasn\u2019t able to tell the February book club author that she was picked. So, yesterday, I got to watch a recording of her agents telling her over Zoom. She brought her husband in and they wept together because of what it means for them economically and the fact that her work is being acknowledged.<\/p>\n
Do you think the industry is fully aware of your brand at this point or do you still get bad pitches?<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON We came out of the gate very, very focused. We have a whole list of things that we are not, and things we are. That being our filter made it really clear for everyone. But, every once in a while, I\u2019ll have somebody hand me a book that has a male lead. I\u2019m like, \u201cI don\u2019t think you\u2019re following our Instagram \u2026\u201d<\/p>\n
The history of Hello Sunshine really overlapped with the #MeToo movement. As we hit the five-year anniversary, how do you think your work was influenced by everything that\u2019s happened?<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON When #MeToo came along, we were already an established company. Big Little Lies had already come out. Wild had already come out, and we were already starting on The Morning Show. But it absolutely has shifted perceptions in our business consciousness. The lights are definitely on. It gave us a lot of tailwinds to just create more. We got a lot more support. More women are being hired as directors and behind the scenes. That\u2019s a good thing, but it\u2019s also a problem. You can\u2019t find a lot of female directors and women of color because they\u2019re all booked. It\u2019s a good problem, but we need to fill the pipelines more. The thing I love about women and women in our business \u2014 whether it\u2019s Shonda Rhimes, Mindy Kaling, Kerry Washington or Ava DuVernay \u2014 is that they are not busy worrying about the problems. They\u2019re out there doing and creating change and making things and pushing forward. There isn\u2019t a lot of time to go backward. It\u2019s a lot of progress and momentum forward.<\/p>\n
NEUSTADTER I was having this conversation recently with a department head of ours. She was saying that she feels the way that women treat each other is so different now. And that it\u2019s so wonderful to be on a set that is led by women who are really supporting each other. From when we started five years ago, it feels really different in Hollywood in a great way, just in terms of the stories that are being told but also the ways that we\u2019re collaborating.<\/p>\n
Averaging 10 million viewers during its run, Big Little Lies ranks as one of HBO\u2019s most successful series of the past decade. JENNIFER CLASEN\/HBO
\nAt the risk of a dramatic pivot, what can you tell me about Jon Hamm\u2019s role in the new season of The Morning Show?<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON He gets to be funny! He gets to be his dashing, charming, irreverent self. He\u2019s just great. I\u2019ve known him for so long, and it\u2019s such a blast to get to work with him. He and Billy Crudup talk all day. They\u2019re like best friends.<\/p>\n
Reese Witherspoon (left) and Jennifer Aniston in The Morning Show, now filming season three. COURTESY OF APPLE TV+
\nWhen was the last time you two had a serious conversation about revisiting Big Little Lies?<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON Yesterday. (Laughs.)<\/p>\n
NEUSTADTER Are you reading our text messages?<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON I talk to Nicole Kidman about it all the time, too. And Laura Dern. And Zo\u00eb Kravitz. And Shailene Woodley. Somebody asked me the other day, \u201cWhat co-stars do you talk to more than any other?\u201d It\u2019s absolutely the Big Little Lies cast. We\u2019re always talking and texting. But [director] Jean-Marc Vall\u00e9e\u2019s passing was really hard on us. He was our collaborator. He was our friend. He was our brother. So much of that series was born of his imagination and his creativity, so it is hard to imagine a future without him. But there is certainly a deep desire for all of us to connect and create those characters again.<\/p>\n
So what was this latest text about?<\/p>\n
NEUSTADTER Just say, \u201cThey winked at each other on camera.\u201d<\/p>\n
WITHERSPOON I winked!<\/p>\n
Interview edited for length and clarity.<\/p>\n
A Relatively Brief, Very Busy History of Hello Sunshine<\/p>\n
Pivoting from the success of the former Pacific Standard, Reese Witherspoon founds Hello Sunshine and installs Sarah Harden as CEO.<\/p>\n
JUNE 2017<\/p>\n
Reese\u2019s Book Club launches with Gail Honeyman\u2019s Eleanor Oliphant Is Completely Fine, a title that goes on to sell nearly 800,000 copies.<\/p>\n
SEPTEMBER 2017<\/p>\n
After Big Little Lies\u2018 buzzy HBO premiere, the drama sweeps its Emmys\u2019 limited series categories with 16 noms and eight wins, including lead actress for Nicole Kidman.<\/p>\n
Witherspoon and Sarah Harden (right) RODIN ECKENROTH\/GETTY IMAGES
\nJULY 2018<\/p>\n
In an unscripted debut, Witherspoon and DirecTV drop Shine On With Reese \u2014 an interview series featuring Ava DuVernay, Dolly Parton and Pink.<\/p>\n
NOVEMBER 2019<\/p>\n
Apple TV+ debuts with Hello Sunshine\u2019s The Morning Show \u2014 starring Witherspoon, Jennifer Aniston and Steve Carell \u2014 as its calling card.<\/p>\n
MARCH 2020<\/p>\n
Little Fires Everywhere, the first book club adaptation, premieres on Hulu and grabs an Emmy nomination for star Kerry Washington.<\/p>\n
AUGUST 2021<\/p>\n
Blackstone-backed Candle buys Hello Sunshine, cementing the company as a Hollywood force and sparking a wave of nine-figure acquisitions.<\/p>\n
FEBRUARY 2022<\/p>\n
Ahead of The Home Edit\u2019s Netflix series, Hello Sunshine acquires the lifestyle brand as part of a push to blend content with commerce.<\/p>\n
JULY 2022<\/p>\n
Feature debut Where the Crawdads Sing opens in 3,650 theaters and trails only massive IP Thor and Minions in the first weekend at the box office.<\/p>\n
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